Re: [AMMRL] B-ACS sample in Shim error

From: Sebastian Kemper via groups.io <sebastian.kemper=tu-berlin.de_at_groups.io>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:02:08 +0000

Hello,

sorry, I selected the wrong reply option for my last email. But I have a
question to the group. I have currently problems with both errors: "15 SHIM
SYSTEM NOT EMPTY” and „sample detect at magnet failed“
and I try to figure out what is going on. Therefore I have following questions:

1) In Bruker Utilities ->Test Tools ->rstest->BSMS->position is this the
position in the BST? Is 0 no sample, 1 sample up and 2 sample down? If this
is not the position of the sample in the BST, where can I access the values
of the different sensors in the BST?

2) How many sensors are in the BST? One optical sensor down in the BST to
detect rotation and that the sample is down and another sensor at the up position
on the other side of a diode? I can see at the upper part also a hole from which
I cannot determine the function. Is there another sensor (see picture of upper sensor)?

Best regards,
Sebastian

-----Original Message-----
> From: main_at_ammrl.groups.io On Behalf Of Sebastian Kemper via groups.io
> Sent: Mittwoch, 6. November 2024 15:21
> To: main_at_ammrl.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [AMMRL] B-ACS sample in Shim error

Hallo Andre,

war die Fehlermeldung wirklich bei euch "15 SHIM SYSTEM NOT EMPTY”
oder „sample detect at magnet failed“?
Meiner Meinung nach müsste "15 SHIM SYSTEM NOT EMPTY” ein Fehler
des sample down sensors sein und „sample detect at magnet failed “
ein Fehler des Sample Up sensors.

Viele Grüße,
Sebastian


-----Original Message-----
> From: main_at_ammrl.groups.io On Behalf Of Andre Dallmann
> Sent: Dienstag, 21. November 2023 16:13
> To: main_at_ammrl.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [AMMRL] B-ACS sample in Shim error

Hi Pedro,  we do have that error from time to time, but if you take a
cotton swab and clean the sensor in the upper shim stack (the sample up
sensor) with ethanol it should go away.

Cheers, André

Am 21.11.2023 um 15:46 schrieb Pedro Aguiar:
> Hello,
>
> We have recently been suffering from an error on our AVANCE II system
> equipped with a B-ACS 60 and with black “sample down unit”
> at the top of BST.
>
> ERROR: "15 SHIM SYSTEM NOT EMPTY”
>
> This error pops up occasionally when going to insert the next sample.
> Completed sample is removed from BST and placed in carousel. Carousel moves
> to next tube and the arm obtains the next tube and moves it over and down
> into BST. However, before the pincers open, the error occasionally occurs.
> No obvious rhyme or reason that I can tell.
>
> I have been present when it fails and the “sample down” LED
> on the sample down unit does not come on before the error.
>
> I suspect one of two sensors, the sample down unit itself and/or one of the
> various cables may be at fault.
>
>
> Question 1) Have others had similar issues in the past? If so, any hints
> on which part(s) to try test first?
>
>
> Question 2) Have people removed the Sample down unit altogether (living
> dangerously…)? I tried and ICON was unhappy (never registered as
> having loaded and would not move on). Did I perhaps miss an option in ICON?
> Need to uninstall Firmware (update of firmware mentioned in sample down unit
> install manual)?
>
> Thanks,
> Pedro
>
>
>
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>
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>
> S'il vous plaît répondre pendant vos heures de travail.
>
>
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>
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>
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lower BST.jpg
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diode.jpg
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Upper sensor.jpg
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