Re: [AMMRL] SPB Sensor Pneumatic Board #Bruker

From: Muhammad Adil Raees via groups.io <adil.raees=lums.edu.pk_at_groups.io>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:12:49 +0000

Hi Mike,

We tried using the dry gas, but unfortunately, the valve did not recover. We
have a sample case for automation. When we try to do a sample injection,
we encounter a BSMS error saying: "Lift command is not handled since the
emergency lift is active," even though the emergency lift is not actually
active.

I think this error is related to the SPB board, especially if moisture has
gotten into it. To solve both of these issues, I believe we should replace
the SPB board.

Let me know your thoughts or if you have any further recommendations.

Regards,

Muhammad Adil Raees, Ph.D.
Manager NMR Operations, The Central Laboratory
Syed Babar Ali School of Sciences and Engineering
Lahore University of Management Sciences
Opposite Sector-U, D.H.A. 54792, Lahore
Call: +92-42-111-115-867 Ext: 3339
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I can only speak about how we do things in the americas--I don't know how the
service group you're dealing with does things. I do have a few things I
can say:

Regarding the VTU--one of the most frequent causes for SPB damage we see is
moisture in the pressurized gas supply. You might have a look at that. You
could try disconnecting the VT output of the VTU and blowing dry gas through
it for a while to see if the valve recovers. Sometimes drying them out helps,
sometimes it doesn't. If that doesn't help, the reasonable solution is to
exchange the board for a new one from Bruker. In this case I don't see having
a faulty board as a spare as being beneficial--I think the exchange is the
right way to go.

Regarding the automation, it's hard to make suggestions without knowing what
the symptoms are and what sample changer you have. The sample changer should
really have no connection to the SPB and the two should not cause each other
not to function. I mean, if the VT gas stops flowing, it will turn off the
heater, but that shouldn't make any difference in whether the sample changer
can insert the sample or not. Having said that, if your air supply is
significantly contaminated, depending on the sample changer you have, that
could get gunked up as well.

Regarding the faulty boards, it kind of depends on you. I'm going to say your
best alternative is probably going to be to scrap them because you don't want
to risk trying to repair them and then having them fail in the console and
potentially causing more damage.

Cheers,
Mike

On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 04:21:38 AM MDT, Muhammad Adil Raees via groups.io wrote:


Hi- I am writing to ask for your advice on SPB sensor pneumatic board of our
Avance Neo console. One of its pneumatic valves is not functioning, which
is causing two significant problems:

  1. VTU Operations: We are unable to run the VTU as the gas cannot flow
through one of its pneumatic valves. As a result, the VTU of the system turns
off automatically as soon as the gas flow diminishes.
  2. Automation: The automation process is also being affected, likely due
to a connection between the autosampler and this board. Consequently, the
autosampler is not performing automation.

Given the situation, I would like to seek your advice on how to proceed with
this faulty board. One option is to exchange the faulty board for a new one
from Bruker, but they only offer a 20-30% discount on the exchange. The
alternative is to purchase a new board at full price and keep the faulty one
as a spare, though I am uncertain if the faulty board would be of any use
in the future.

Additionally, we have two faulty shim boards and one PSMA power supply boards
that were replaced with new ones. I am curious about what to do with these
boards—should I consider them as only trash, or do they have any use?
Could you please provide your insights on which course of action would be
more advisable? Your expertise would be greatly appreciated as we decide how
to move forward.
--
Muhammad Adil Raees, Ph.D.
Manager NMR Facility
The Central Laboratory
Syed Babar Ali School of Sciences and Engineering
Lahore University of Management Sciences
Opposite Sector-U, D.H.A. 54792, Lahore
+92-330-2866755
adil.raees_at_lums.edu.pk


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