There is a good reason why expnos are integer numbers and not some text.
If you check Bruker au programs you will see many "i(d)expnos" or other
simple operations requiring numbers. How would you suggest suggest to
increment "apple" or get a sum of "apple+orange" ??
As suggested by many already, both data set name and comments can be
used to add as much detail as a user needs in a format they prefer.
Introducing a change into a system, which is well organised, would be
counterproductive if not silly!
Abil
On 27/10/2015 20:57, Patrick Wheeler wrote:
>
> Hello AMMRL Folks,
>
> I’m very sensitive to the culture of AMMRL (having been a member for
> ~20 years?) and so am offering this quick note as a matter of
> information for the membership rather than as a commercial offering.
>
> ACD/Spectrus Processor automatically recognizes data by experiment
> type for most common experiments, and allows the user to browse the
> data – labeling it automatically. The data does not have to be loaded
> first. Data that is loaded for viewing is also labeled by watermark
> in the spectrum processing fields. Unknown data types can be mapped
> by the user to extend the capabilities of the software.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Patrick Wheeler
>
> ACD/Labs
>
> NMR Product Manager
>
> +1-858-395-2023
>
> *From:*Plant,Daniel [mailto:dan_at_mbi.ufl.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 12:17 PM
> *To:* 'Kenneth Knott' <kknott_at_vt.edu>; ammrl_at_ammrl.org
> *Cc:* Plant,Daniel <dan_at_mbi.ufl.edu>
> *Subject:* RE: AMMRL: Bruker folders
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Wouldn’t the suggestion from Clemens satisfy your need to label the
> dataset. Ie Sample1-1D-TOCSY.
>
> The beauty of the numbering system is that you may then collect
> several exps under the same name.
>
> Ie. Exps 1, 2, 3 might be 3 different mixing times.
>
> My experience has been that the Hotline has always been helpful.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dan
>
> *From:*Kenneth Knott [mailto:kknott_at_vt.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 9:50 AM
> *To:* ammrl_at_ammrl.org <mailto:ammrl_at_ammrl.org>
> *Subject:* Re: AMMRL: Bruker folders
>
> Thanks everyone for the suggestions and input.. But I think I've
> found a correlation. The people who aren't too bothered by the Bruker
> data system are those using Topspin and it's included browser to
> process their data.
>
> Unfortunately, many of us process our data off the instrument using
> alternative means. We, here at Virginia Tech, use Mnova to process our
> data for a number of reason. The first being we find it to be
> superior to all others in processing. But also for a number of other
> reasons.
>
> 1) Users our trained on one processing software package in a
> multiplatform environment (Mix of Burker and Agilent/Varian sytems)
>
> 2) NUS processing is included (for free) and far superior (much
> faster) to Topsim
>
> In any case, when processing outside of Topshim you rely on the file.
> system to describe your data sets. Here is where Topshim fails
> miserably...
>
> 1) Exp numbers for folders is wholly undescriptive...
>
> 2) Even inside the folder, one cannot tell at a glance what the
> experiment is outside of 1D or 2D
>
> Sure there are ways around this once the data is loaded into Mnova
> using titles, but Bruker Topspin falls far short in this regard and
> I'm astonished that you cannot give the experiment folders any kind of
> descriptor.
>
> Thanks again for the help.
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Knott <kknott_at_vt.edu
> <mailto:kknott_at_vt.edu>> wrote:
>
> So one thing that has always frustrated me about Topspin is that
> is saves all folders simply by the experimetn number. This gets
> very difficult to keep track of when I've got a suite of
> experiments or add to them over time.
>
> It seems to me that there must be a way to alter this to save
> perhaps by experiment number AND parameter set.. for example
> 10-C13CPD or 20-PROTONRO, etc...
>
> Can this be done? If not, how do you get around this issue?
>
> I have found the bruker 'hotline' to be less than helpful with
> issues such as this...
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> Ken Knott
>
> Department of Chemistry
>
> Analytical Services
>
> Virginia Tech
>
> (540)267-6502 <tel:%28540%29267-6502> (Cell)
>
> (540)231-0885 <tel:%28540%29231-0885> (Office)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ken Knott
>
> Department of Chemistry
>
> Analytical Services
>
> Virginia Tech
>
> (540)267-6502 (Cell)
>
> (540)231-0885 (Office)
>
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