Responses to "Remote ops of SUN via ethernet and PC using EXCEED"

From: <STRLLIB_at_aol.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:49:01 EDT

Dear AMMRLers,

Thank you very much for the information on how to get my PC to talk to my SUN
using EXCEED. I have listed the responses I got below. After more
investigation it appears that my SUN is not configured to be on a network and
I will need to reconfigure my SUN using the "suninstall" macro to create a
network IP Address other than the default "127.0.0.1" (which apparently is
only used for non-network stuff). Unfortunately I am in a temporary location
with just my PC and SUN (NMR is in storage till new lab is built) and my
Solaris software is packed away. So, I need to wait on this project till I
am reunited with my software.

Thanks again for your help. I will let you know of my progress once me and
my Solaris software are reunited.

Pat Hays
Email: STRLLIB_at_aol.com

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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

Dear AMMRLers,

I am trying to install EXCEED to allow remote operation of my Unity 500 on my
PC in my office. A friend has made the physical ethernet connections and all
the lights are lit but he is unsure how to establish the network on my PC
especially to a SUN. Under the PC Startup Menu-->setup-->network--there is
only the Configuration tab (I have seen other tabs available on existing
PC-PC networks). In Configuration are the following:

AOL Adapter
SMC Ethernet Card
TCP/IP --AOL Adapter
TCP/IP -- SMC Ethernet Card

At this point there is no Network Neighborhood established (icon on the
desktop like I have seen on other networks). What is missing? Is a CLIENT
supposed to be added to this list? If so, how do you choose from the options
(Microsoft, SunSoft, etc) when you want to connect a PC to a UNIX based SUN?

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Pat Hays (the computer novice)
email: STRLLIB_at_aol.com


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Its been awhile since I installed my Exceed, so the details are a bit fuzzy.
But from the PC (windows) point of view, I don't believe there was any
changes that needed to by made. I believe exceed uses the existing tcp/ip
protocol. I've just check my network setup, and don't see any extra
pertaining to exceed.

All I remember having to do was to install the Exceed software as per
instructions, and then you "configure" the client by starting an Xsession,
either by Xsession icon or Client Wizard icon, both of which should be in
the Exceed folder on your desktop. These will establish X windows to a
particular client type (Sgi, sun, etc). Also there should be a XDMCP
broadcast manager which will actually bring up the Sun login window, which
is what you probably want

Again, I don't remember having to do anything from the microsoft
standpoint - I'm using windowsNT.

Hope this helps a little, you can email if there is a specific setting you'd
like me to check.

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Yes, you should add Microsoft's Client for Microsoft Networks (not the
SunSoft NFS client). You will also need to fill in some of the settings in
the multi-tabbed form that comes up when you click the Properties button for
TCP/IP --SMC Ethernet Card.

The most critical setting is the IP address. In most organizations this
would be provided to you, either automatically by a server, or in person by
your IT friends. It sounds like you might be on a network of just two
computers, though; in that case you can get by just picking one yourself.
But don't pick it completely at random. Look up the address the Sun is
using (look in /etc/hosts), change the last of the four numbers to something
else between 2 and 254, and use that. You must not duplicate an address
that any other computer is using, and don't make up an address like this if
you're connected to a larger network. Now, on the IP address tab in TCP/IP
Properties, select "Specify an IP address", then type it in. The settings
in the other five tabs will probably default to reasonable values.

You should make an entry in the Sun's /etc/hosts file with the IP address
and name you've chosen for the PC. It can also be helpful to have a hosts
file on the PC. It has the exact same format as the Unix version; store it
as C:\windows\hosts. You can use the "ping" program on both PC (MS-DOS
prompt only) and Sun to test connectivity: "ping 123.45.67.89" or "ping
unity500" (substitute your IP addresses and hostnames).

Hope this helps,

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If you want to try using XWin32 from Starnet which you can try for free I can
tell you all about how to do it. In general the Xterminal software must be
configured to recognize the system which you want to access. Look at Exceed
and
see you to add your spectrometer to its list of know machines.
First though you need to setup your PC to use TCP/IP with the ethernet card
not
the modem. You cannnot connect a cable directly from your PC to the
spectrometer
for reasons which I will not go into here.

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We recently had a similar problem, where we wanted to operate a Low
Resolution
spectrometer remotely.
This could be done without much efforts using a piece of software called
VNC, which is
free and you can download it from the net at
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/.

This programm works across platforms (I was able work remotely on a PC from
a Mac) through a TCP/IP connection.
I managed to install this software in no time and I am by far not a computer
expert.
Though, I have not yet tried to use this software to connect to our UNIX
computers.

Kind Regards
Received on Fri Sep 29 2000 - 09:34:32 MST

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