Hi Marc and Jerry and the fellow fraternity !
Thank you Marc, for an excellent and succinct summary of this year's
AMMRL meeting. I too missed the meeting. It was rather nice of you
Marc, for throwing the arms open to prospective Spinalnders.
Nevertheless, I will add to Jerry's comment, in the same vain I suppose,
in the following manner. We only need to look in our own 'backyards'
and see what kind of a perspective the 'grad students' and 'post docs'
have about their own NMR Facility Staff, to gauge what kind of response
you will get in the ENC for a open house of sorts to teach the Jedi
tricks of running an NMR Lab. From my own vantage point, at least, I
won't predict the response to be overwhelming.
With very best wishes to you all.
Rajan
On 04/30/2010 01:40 PM, Marc ter Horst wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
> Excellent point. And, I agree, we should not replace the content
> for current managers. If there was interest, it could be a
> session/poster/other event separate from the AMMRL meeting.
>
> I brought that up as a possible benefit for the grad students and
> post-docs in attendance at the ENC who are considering a management
> position. Who better to provide that guidance than those currently
> running facilities? Assuming, of course, those people are interested
> in providing that service (I would be interested).
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
>
> Jerry Hirschinger wrote:
>> Hi Marc,
>> Thank you for the summary of the meeting. Sounds like it was a good
>> ENC.
>> I'm sorry I missed it, but our budget remains restricted. I just
>> have one
>> thing to comment on, out of all of the other very good ideas you
>> mentioned.
>>
>> To develop a format of training and education of persons not yet, nor
>> necessarily ever to be in an MR lab management situation would seem to
>> defeat the rationale for running this list by Junta and limiting
>> membership
>> to those with currently relevant need. In my opinion, considering
>> the loose
>> organisation and purely volunteer efforts of the members, we could
>> better
>> hope to achieve the objectives of the group by concentrating our
>> effort for
>> the benefit of active managers.
>>
>> Happy spinning,
>> Jerry Hirschinger, NMR Instrumentation Specialist
>> Purdue Interdepartmental NMR Facility
>> 560 Oval Dr. West Lafayette, IN 47907-2084
>> Office: Wetherill 365A
>> Phone / Fax: (765) 494-5288 / 494-0239
>> Cellular: (765) 427-3034
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marc ter Horst [mailto:terhorst_at_email.unc.edu] Sent: Friday,
>> April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
>> To: ammrl_at_ammrl.org
>> Subject: AMMRL: meeting at the ENC
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I want to send a "thank you" out to everyone who attended the AMMRL
>> discussion last week at the ENC. We had about 65 people in
>> attendance. We split into three groups to discuss cryo/cold probes,
>> basic needs in
>> facilities and other aspect of running a facility (and controlling
>> costs).
>> There were some lively discussions about cryo/cold probe maintenance
>> and, in
>> another group, what to look out for in new users of NMR
>> spectrometers. The
>> discussion format was overwhelmingly preferred over a series of
>> presentations. The people I spoke with later in the week, reacted
>> positively
>> to the meeting. One critique did emphasize the need for well run
>> discussions- something we can work on for next year.
>>
>> Those of you who helped lead those discussions, it's time to
>> summarize the
>> group's work and distribute to the listserv. Thanks for your
>> assistance!
>>
>> One theme repeated by a number of spectroscopists new to the facility
>> management scene was the need to hear from experienced managers- a topic
>> often repeated at other past ENC's. They wanted to know what tends
>> to work
>> (and what doesn't), what in general to expect from a particular user
>> base
>> and how best to maintain equipment. The group needs to continue to
>> provide
>> this information at future AMMRL meetings.
>>
>> Are there other ways we can address this need at next year's ENC. We
>> can
>> use our usual AMMRL meeting as we have in the past. We could develop a
>> format that extends the material to training and educational
>> experiences for
>> grad students and post-docs to better prepare them for a career in NMR
>> service.
>>
>> We should also address career development of current facility
>> managers- at
>> academic facilities, there's no tenure, no company path to upper level
>> management. Are we necessarily destined to retire in the same
>> position we
>> started? How have managers successfully enhances their positions while
>> maintaining a well-run facility? Anyway, just throwing out some
>> ideas while
>> they are fresh.
>>
>> Comments or suggestions????
>>
>> Yeah it's early but we can put ideas into the listserv archives for
>> reference when we prepare for next year's meeting.
>>
>> Marc
>> --
>> Marc ter Horst, PhD
>> NMR Facility co-Director
>> UNC-CH Employee Forum Delegate and Treasurer
>>
>> 056 Caudill Labs
>> Department of Chemistry, CB #3290
>> UNC at Chapel Hill
>> Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3290
>>
>> e-mail: terhorst_at_unc.edu
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
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